Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-124.6.181.38-20160401125858/@comment-77.172.195.238-20180503150025

71.144.32.152 wrote: NiddHogg wrote: To explain my research 1. I did not say all subliminals don't work, all we found was that physical changes in the subjects is seemingly impossible, or at the very least so small that there's no visible difference.

2.We did find some evidence for BioK but it wasn't drastic changes(showed a 10-25% increase in strength)

3.I'm fully willing to reopen my research if people are willing to help out.

4. our test for changing eye color when like this we had 3 researchers each with a group of 4 subjects,each day for 3 months the 4 subjects in group one had to sit alone in a room for 25 minutes listing to Binaural Beats(which previous research had shown increased the effectiveness of psi) in an attempt to change their eye color

group two had to listen to subliminals for 25 minutes

group 3 had to sit in a room without either.

each subject took a picture once at the start and once at the end, No noticeable changes took place.

5.Again we found evidence that changes can take place, but it's irrational to assume that increasing muscle mass is the same as changing eye color.

but hey I'm willing to be proven wrong if people can show me evidence.

Changing a belief just on a conscious level will likely not achieve much. The beliefs must be changed down into the subconscious mind. And that is a fortunate thing because imagine if we could use only our conscious mind to change our biology then we could mess things up really badly. The way you feel, your actions, and your reactions upon things in the world may be the reason for your physical appearance. Subliminal is just a self-tool. It not ¨magic¨. The changes happen within you, not the subliminal itself. I think that is the reason none of your subjects are getting results. Because, changing our biology is very possible, especially with the help of subliminal.

When you plant a seed, you don´t expect it to be a full-grown plant the next day, do you? It takes effort itself. If you don´t water the plant, nor put it in a place where it receive good amount of sunlight, how do you expect any results? The plant will eventually die.

A seed represents our thoughts. Sunlight represents how limited your mind is. And water represents our actions.

Thoughts, limitations, and actions are needed to achieve such things like changing eye color.

Just simply listening to subliminal is definetly not ''enough. ''If so, we´d all be gods by now, won´t we? You must change how you view yourself in your mind.

1. Limitation. You must pass through the barrier which is, your conscious, in order to tap into your subconscious. When your subconscious beliefs changes, eventually, your conscious mind will too. That why it is so important to let others decide what is the limit. Instead of planting anything else into their mind. Let them decide for themselves.

2. Thoughts. When you pass through your limitation, you came onto thoughts. This is where subliminal comes in. Subliminal gives affirmation which bypass your conscious (For faster results) and into your subconscious. Since we humans are program to believe so little, it take times to see actual results. Your subconscious mind will need repetition over and over again to rewrite everything. And you can not force changes. That is why patience is also needed.

3.  Actions. Thoughts are still not good enough to see actual results. You must take action. How do you expect to attract women when you´re not even talking to them? Don´t expect subliminal to do everything for you. You are the one doing' everything. 'The way you feel and treat yourself is also included here. Ever heard of the quote,¨Fake it until you make it¨? Act as if you have already gotten what you wanted. Even if you are not close to it in reality. Visualization and meditation can help more than you think.

'''These are the steps you must take to really get that change you want. It is hard, but nobody said it would be easy. '''

I briefly did a research on lucid dreaming not long ago. I found a site where someone had lucid dream and imagined herself get lighter skin tone. Surprisingly, when she woke up, she has gotten her results. Now, there must be many holes to this but even so, does this not give an idea that dream and reality are not far apart? Just saying... This is literally the only intelligent post I read so far, even though I heard this many times before and he/she missed out a few things.

Subliminal audios DO work, physically (noticeable by yourself and others) and mentally. Limitations, thoughts and actions are indeed important.

Belief system (if you're skeptical and not open minded, it can take a while, but at least be open to the possibility of its effectiveness), positive mindset (positive thinking is always important, the usage of subliminal audios or not, who wants to be a pessimist or misanthrope anyway?) and willpower (subliminal audios work, but if you want to achieve your goals, then DO SOMETHING, don't be a lazy bum...) are key factors, but possible emotional or mental (or a combination of both) blockages can hinder you on your journey from receiving the (desireable) results. That's why you need to listen to a legitimately subliminal audio made by a legitimately subliminal maker (in my personal experience I recommend Mind Power (Amy Bass), HypnoDaddy (I don't know his personal name) and Shannon Matteson). When you listen one or more subliminals, then also include one or (possibly) more boosters to speed up results in a safe way and also include subliminals that can clear emotional or mental blockages, which prevent you from getting (mostly) physical results. Working emotionally and mentally on yourself is very important, because depressions, long term negative-influenced thoughts, (childhood) traumas and many other negative factors can hinder you from receiving results, so THINK before you DO, because subliminal audios are just tools, you're the one that is responsible for changes. Humans are complex organisms, so it is common sense to conclude it works different for everyone.

Besides I want to put an end to the argument, "subliminal audios are just placebo", because it's incorrect and it falls under the category "argumentum ad ignorantiam/argument from ignorance." Placebos and nocebos are the production of the conscious mind. Most people who listen subliminals will experience a placebo or nocebo at the beginning, they will "see" results that are non-existent and not noticeable by others, but after a while (in my personal experience after few days or 2 weeks) the placebo/nocebo will vanish and the more obvious results will show up, which are physically there and noticeable by others as well. The placebo/nocebo is temporarily, so after a while the effects of the placebo/nocebo (creation of the conscious mind) will be overpowered by the real effects (creation of the more superior subconscious mind).

However, it doesn't matter if you experience a placebo or not, because even though you experience a placebo effect, the subconscious mind can make the placebo effect (which is useless without a good subliminal audio) part of reality. So basically a placebo is just a lifeless doll without a subliminal audio, but if you use a subliminal audio to trigger the subconscious mind, then it can make the placebo real and effective, so you put life into the lifeless doll, then it's not a "placebo" anymore, but a true effect.

~Mark Daman