Talk:Chaos Magic/@comment-72.171.16.179-20140130195750

"Chaotes can be agnostic or atheist and regard magical practice as merely psychological (placebo effect, for example), and not a metaphysical act"-

This can be true, or distinctly Not. Many chaotes, myself included, regard magick as absolutely metaphysical, mystical, and everything anybody thinks of as "Magick".

The Real deal with chaos magick is this- It is a philosophy that breaks through the dogma of established systems,  with the acceptance that method is irrelevant so long as it works for you and achieves your desired result. It doesn't matter What you do to make magick, only that you do Something- you can just make some shit up on the fly, and that, if you know what you're doing, will work just as well as the words of any long dead dusty dead guy- usually better.

The freedom from pointless dogma to experiment and be creative are it's greatests strengths, its weakness of course, are that people use that as an excuse not to do the very hard work of learning the mental control and focus necessary to affect real change in the world- and they take the Chaos word as an excuse to be a silly dumbass.

All in all, it's a good philosophy to at least Know about, as you can see the legitimacy in All occult systems, and thus not fall into the "One True Way" trap, (which leads into stagnation)- and Also it helps boil down the business of the occult so we can get more substance and success without all the pointless fluff.