Thread:Sh'çift/@comment-10019082-20140331221020/@comment-24276288-20140401014046

i agree that belief does play a role

but there are some points that must be clarified

"science cant prove everything" indeed

but look

some members claim that they made the katrina hurricane and that they made half of a school freeze or that they stopped the time

the point here is not to prove it was them but to prove it happened i searched for a shool who gos half freezed but i ddnt got a single result the same for a case of time stop

look i am not saying that there need to have a journal report for every psychic action of course it's very improbable though possible for the katrina hurricane being caused by a psychic even being a absurd claim the claimer might be telling the truth or his perception of the truth

the problem comes when the claimer claim something that its impossible not because it defy laws of science but because it's a contradictory claim

e.g "i have a square ball"

this kind of claim is to self contradictory that even if i ignore the inconsistency i refuse take the bad reputation that such a claim is going to give to the wikia if the wikia recognize it as possible

the problem with all peoples is that they cant just say what happened they have to exaggerate and get a spiritual interpretation at a point that the final info is simply unconceivable

could you please gimme your definition of magic manifestation and how it works because there are many things that simply don't make sense and this not making sense is what cause problem